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Should this really be listed as a competitor to Windows and such? It's not actually an OS, just a kernal. It could be considered a product line. I know there is a generic "Windows" report, and I could see "Linux" competing with "Windows" and "OS X." Perhaps ProductWiki should start creating "product line reports" that go over the line in general. An example of this would be a report on the "Playstation" line.

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Ya, this definitely makes sense, and things are starting to move in that direction. If you see what I did in the televisions categories, I had "master" report that contained most of the information about a series of TVs, and then "sub" reports that talked about specific details.

I think the same design makes sense in Operating Systems. You have "Linux" series report which talks about linux in general, and then the different variations. You could even have multiple levels... so a linux master report that is referenced from a "Ubuntu" master report, which then gets broken down into the various incarnations of Ubuntu (hardy heron, gutsy gibbon, etc).

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Or even break it down further to have Hardy Heron Xubuntu, Hardy Heron Kubuntu, Hardy Heron Ubuntu, Hardy Heron Gobuntu. I was thinking that the Google report could perhaps do the same thing and there could be individual Google Maps, Google Code, Froogle, etc. reports.

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Linux shouldn't be a competitor to Windows. Ubuntu should, and Ubuntu should derive (or be related to) the Linux report, and, Linux should derive from the Unix. I like the idea of inheritance for product reports. Omar and Jan have already been doing this with TVs and some software, and it works out really well.

The ProductWiki software currently has limited support for product inheritance (Product A is derived from Product B) in the "Related Products" functionality. Maybe we can open that functionality to a broader audience including moderators?

We should also talk about how information is shared (or not shared) between inherited reports.

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Sounds  interesting Erik, perhaps another meeting? We could celebrate Omar's 40th there as well. Perhaps some combination of inheritence and product line reports might work well.

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OK - So I started cleaning up the OS section. I renamed Ubuntu to Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron", and created a Ubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon" stub, as well as a generic Ubuntu stub. (problem here, will mention later in post). I also set generic Red Hat, Debian, and Slackware to be subclasses of Linux. Once I get to making more specific reports for the more recent versions of each, those will become subclasses (i.e. Debian 4.0 Etch = subclass Debian). I fixed what's competeting with what so that Linux competes with Microsoft Windows, and not Vista Buisness Ultimate. The problems I have ran into are these.

1) I can't really create a generic Ubuntu report because www.productwiki.com/ubuntu is redirecting to the "Hardy  Heron" report because I changed the title. An admin needs to fix this, because I can't.

2) There are three sets of subclasses with Linux, but not neccesarily three with Windows. With Linux it goes Linux -> Distro -> Distro Version. With Windows it goes Windows -> (XP/Vista/2000). Perhaps with Windows it could go something like this Windows -> Vista -> (Basic/Premium/Ultimate). Any suggestions?

ADMINS NEED TO FIX PROBLEM NUMBER ONE

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Redirect issue fixed.

I can see Windows having a similar 3-tier subclassing, and it'd be good to be consistent along the operating systems. Linux vs Windows vs OSX. Though I think OSX only has one tier, or would OSX be a subclass of Linux :)

Windows XP->Windows XP Pro | Windows XP Home

Windows Vista -> Home Basic | Home Premium | Business | Ultimate

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OS X -> Leopard -> (Snow leopard, is that a subset of leopard, or just the next OS like how it went tiget to leopard?)

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Well OSX was introduced 10 years ago, and since then they've been naming the versions: 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 etc and with each new .1 they've given a new name "Tiger, Leopard" and now "Snow Leopard" which is 10.6

However Snow Leopard isn't going to be too much different from regular Leopard to consumers, however a lot of changes are happening on the back-end to make developer's more productive.

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